Thanksgiving 2.0
After The Ex asked if she could have Daughter on our weekend so that they could celebrate Thanksgiving, Husband replied saying that if she wanted Daughter, they could switch weekends and to let him know what she wanted to do. (I blogged about it all in this post.) Since her original correspondence, The Ex has not logged into 2houses. Not to check the calendar, not to read Husband's response to her question, nothing. Not one single time in the past 17 days.
Of course, I discussed this with Girlfriend. I told her that The Ex wanted Daughter on our weekend but outright refused to switch because Husband "owed her way too many." Girlfriend replied, "Are you for real why can't she just be not crazy" (Honestly, it's such a breath of fresh air knowing that someone else sees how absurd The Ex's behavior is.) I told Girlfriend that The Ex had given us 3 days' notice and then still expected us to give up our weekend; Girlfriend said The Ex is "loony as hell" and asked what we were going to do. I told her that Husband offered to let Daughter go, but said we'd switch weekends since Daughter had practices the days before and after Thanksgiving, but I didn't think that The Ex had read the message yet. Girlfriend said, "Sounds like her. She thinks she's gonna get her way"; I said of course and if Husband didn't do exactly what she wanted, The Ex would tell everyone what an asshole he is and claim that he "wouldn't let [Daughter] come." We talked a bit more and Girlfriend said, "[Daughter] is a human not a object. She's treating her like property in my opinion." I said that The Ex has always treated all of her kids that way. I said we're not "keeping" Daughter away from The Ex and her side of the family; the fact of the matter is that Daughter has a life and activities here which she shouldn't have to sacrifice just because The Ex chose to move 2 hours away. I said it sucks for us that she and Son and the baby live so far, but that's where their life is and our life is here; we don't expect them to drop everything and come see us every weekend.
Less than a week later, Girlfriend messaged me in the middle of the night with a picture of a message that The Ex had sent to Son. Girlfriend said she wanted to delete the message before Son saw it he gets funny hearing the kinds of things and said that he hates it; she also said, "Why is [The Ex] so stupid." The picture she sent showed that Tuesday evening, Son asked The Ex at 6:21pm if she worked on Wednesday. Exactly 4 hours later, The Ex finally replied to Son with two messages:
"Yes. Only have Thursday off"
"Been arguing with [Daughter]... (Why does this concern Son?) Ugly thinks he's keeping her for Thanksgiving... (Once again, The Ex has no regard for the fact that Son looks exactly like Husband. Every single time that she or one of her family members think they're being "funny" and insulting Husband, they're just insulting Son as well.) I'm fucking done with his bull shit... (A few weeks ago, she told Daughter that Son didn't think about anyone other than himself, that he had no common sense, and that she was done with him. Now he's suddenly her shoulder to cry on about what a horrible person his father is.) A person can only b ripped apart so many times... (We let her have Daughter so that she could celebrate Thanksgiving with The Ex's side of the family; she equates that to being "ripped apart.") I've had more then (*than) 10 years of this" (So what she just said is that Husband only started to "rip her apart" after he got custody of the kids, even though she told Daughter a few weeks ago that Husband physically and emotionally abused her while they were together. You just have to love the constant flip-flopping that she does while always telling "her side" of things. She really can't keep her lies straight and it's just become pathetic.)
I asked Girlfriend what there was to argue about; it wasn't that Husband was "keeping her," it was that Daughter has a life and activities going on here. Girlfriend said, "She's crazy and apparently don't care lol" I pointed out that the "ripped apart so many times" comment was ridiculous and said that The Ex shouldn't have moved so far away from her kids. I also said that they already celebrated Thanksgiving so it wasn't even about that; it was about The Ex wanting to be right and get her way again. Girlfriend said, " She thinks it's all about herself" I said yes, exactly like she thinks that everything we do or don't do is just because of her. I said it was funny that she's "done with [Husband's] bullshit" when a few weeks ago, she was saying she was "done with Son" and that he always hated her. Girlfriend said, "Less than a year 😂" (This is in reference to Daughter turning 18 and us being able to wash our hands of The Ex. Girlfriend completely gets it.)
At some point during the week, Daughter told me that she had a fight with The Ex over the phone. The Ex had called her talking about picking her up on Wednesday. Daughter said that we thought she was staying with us; Daughter told me, "I didn't tell her that I WANTED to stay because she would've just gotten mad at me. All I told her was that you guys thought I was staying." Daughter said that The Ex said she had already told Husband that she wasn't switching weekends and kept talking about picking her up. The Ex then said instead of picking up Daughter after practice on Wednesday, she may pick her up on Friday evening after work. Daughter said again that we thought she was staying. The Ex got angry and told Daughter to stay here. Daughter asked why she was getting yelled at. The Ex continued to be upset with her and before they hung up, she told Daughter to let her know what was going on "so that [The Ex's parents] don't go on a wild goose chase." (Best way to avoid "wild goose chases": don't send your parents to pick up your kid when it's not your time to have them.)
And finally, the Friday after Thanksgiving I got another message from Girlfriend saying that The Ex had asked her and Son to pick up Daughter that evening; Girlfriend told me that they couldn't, but also said that she thought Daughter was staying by us that weekend. I said that yes, Daughter was staying and told her what Daughter had said to me about having an argument with The Ex. Girlfriend said from her understanding, The Ex was planning to drive to our house so she wanted to let us know. I asked Daughter about it; she shrugged and said, "She's (The Ex) the one who told me to stay here."
Honestly, I don't know if anybody tried to pick her up or not. Husband got home from work and we left. We didn't have any calls or texts from anyone in The Ex's family, and we didn't get any calls from the police. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Three years ago they showed up without telling anyone what day or time they were coming, and then announced over 24 hours later that they came to pick up Daughter but nobody was home - no calls, no texts, nothing. They pulled into our driveway, parked, and then left all within the span of 2 minutes. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm going to go back and check our camera footage to satisfy my own curiosity.
Next blog post will be about the huge fight that The Ex started last night with her sister on the "site" (Facebook Messenger group chat) she created to plan their family Thanksgiving & Christmas. It began as one issue with one of The Ex's sisters which could have been dealt with much easier and maturely, and then it snowballed into everybody getting pissed off at each other for other things.
Of course, I discussed this with Girlfriend. I told her that The Ex wanted Daughter on our weekend but outright refused to switch because Husband "owed her way too many." Girlfriend replied, "Are you for real why can't she just be not crazy" (Honestly, it's such a breath of fresh air knowing that someone else sees how absurd The Ex's behavior is.) I told Girlfriend that The Ex had given us 3 days' notice and then still expected us to give up our weekend; Girlfriend said The Ex is "loony as hell" and asked what we were going to do. I told her that Husband offered to let Daughter go, but said we'd switch weekends since Daughter had practices the days before and after Thanksgiving, but I didn't think that The Ex had read the message yet. Girlfriend said, "Sounds like her. She thinks she's gonna get her way"; I said of course and if Husband didn't do exactly what she wanted, The Ex would tell everyone what an asshole he is and claim that he "wouldn't let [Daughter] come." We talked a bit more and Girlfriend said, "[Daughter] is a human not a object. She's treating her like property in my opinion." I said that The Ex has always treated all of her kids that way. I said we're not "keeping" Daughter away from The Ex and her side of the family; the fact of the matter is that Daughter has a life and activities here which she shouldn't have to sacrifice just because The Ex chose to move 2 hours away. I said it sucks for us that she and Son and the baby live so far, but that's where their life is and our life is here; we don't expect them to drop everything and come see us every weekend.
Less than a week later, Girlfriend messaged me in the middle of the night with a picture of a message that The Ex had sent to Son. Girlfriend said she wanted to delete the message before Son saw it he gets funny hearing the kinds of things and said that he hates it; she also said, "Why is [The Ex] so stupid." The picture she sent showed that Tuesday evening, Son asked The Ex at 6:21pm if she worked on Wednesday. Exactly 4 hours later, The Ex finally replied to Son with two messages:
"Yes. Only have Thursday off"
"Been arguing with [Daughter]... (Why does this concern Son?) Ugly thinks he's keeping her for Thanksgiving... (Once again, The Ex has no regard for the fact that Son looks exactly like Husband. Every single time that she or one of her family members think they're being "funny" and insulting Husband, they're just insulting Son as well.) I'm fucking done with his bull shit... (A few weeks ago, she told Daughter that Son didn't think about anyone other than himself, that he had no common sense, and that she was done with him. Now he's suddenly her shoulder to cry on about what a horrible person his father is.) A person can only b ripped apart so many times... (We let her have Daughter so that she could celebrate Thanksgiving with The Ex's side of the family; she equates that to being "ripped apart.") I've had more then (*than) 10 years of this" (So what she just said is that Husband only started to "rip her apart" after he got custody of the kids, even though she told Daughter a few weeks ago that Husband physically and emotionally abused her while they were together. You just have to love the constant flip-flopping that she does while always telling "her side" of things. She really can't keep her lies straight and it's just become pathetic.)
I asked Girlfriend what there was to argue about; it wasn't that Husband was "keeping her," it was that Daughter has a life and activities going on here. Girlfriend said, "She's crazy and apparently don't care lol" I pointed out that the "ripped apart so many times" comment was ridiculous and said that The Ex shouldn't have moved so far away from her kids. I also said that they already celebrated Thanksgiving so it wasn't even about that; it was about The Ex wanting to be right and get her way again. Girlfriend said, " She thinks it's all about herself" I said yes, exactly like she thinks that everything we do or don't do is just because of her. I said it was funny that she's "done with [Husband's] bullshit" when a few weeks ago, she was saying she was "done with Son" and that he always hated her. Girlfriend said, "Less than a year 😂" (This is in reference to Daughter turning 18 and us being able to wash our hands of The Ex. Girlfriend completely gets it.)
At some point during the week, Daughter told me that she had a fight with The Ex over the phone. The Ex had called her talking about picking her up on Wednesday. Daughter said that we thought she was staying with us; Daughter told me, "I didn't tell her that I WANTED to stay because she would've just gotten mad at me. All I told her was that you guys thought I was staying." Daughter said that The Ex said she had already told Husband that she wasn't switching weekends and kept talking about picking her up. The Ex then said instead of picking up Daughter after practice on Wednesday, she may pick her up on Friday evening after work. Daughter said again that we thought she was staying. The Ex got angry and told Daughter to stay here. Daughter asked why she was getting yelled at. The Ex continued to be upset with her and before they hung up, she told Daughter to let her know what was going on "so that [The Ex's parents] don't go on a wild goose chase." (Best way to avoid "wild goose chases": don't send your parents to pick up your kid when it's not your time to have them.)
And finally, the Friday after Thanksgiving I got another message from Girlfriend saying that The Ex had asked her and Son to pick up Daughter that evening; Girlfriend told me that they couldn't, but also said that she thought Daughter was staying by us that weekend. I said that yes, Daughter was staying and told her what Daughter had said to me about having an argument with The Ex. Girlfriend said from her understanding, The Ex was planning to drive to our house so she wanted to let us know. I asked Daughter about it; she shrugged and said, "She's (The Ex) the one who told me to stay here."
Honestly, I don't know if anybody tried to pick her up or not. Husband got home from work and we left. We didn't have any calls or texts from anyone in The Ex's family, and we didn't get any calls from the police. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Three years ago they showed up without telling anyone what day or time they were coming, and then announced over 24 hours later that they came to pick up Daughter but nobody was home - no calls, no texts, nothing. They pulled into our driveway, parked, and then left all within the span of 2 minutes. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm going to go back and check our camera footage to satisfy my own curiosity.
Next blog post will be about the huge fight that The Ex started last night with her sister on the "site" (Facebook Messenger group chat) she created to plan their family Thanksgiving & Christmas. It began as one issue with one of The Ex's sisters which could have been dealt with much easier and maturely, and then it snowballed into everybody getting pissed off at each other for other things.
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